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		By: Joe		</title>
		<link>https://www.jerseysmarts.com/2007/11/14/another-local-government-issue-2/comment-page-1/#comment-1791</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joe]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 15:03:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Just because they are needed doesn&#039;t mean that the tax payers should keep coughing up higher taxes to pay for them.

You should go back and re-read the last comment - the generalizations I make are about the industries where I know people and I said that I wouldn&#039;t make an assumption about this guy because it would be improper.  &lt;em&gt;(Besides the fact that this is a personal blog and I&#039;m allowed to make generalizations!  Not everything has to be the debate of the Century!  :-)  )&lt;/em&gt;

What I DO know is how LITTLE work many of these municipal contractors do throughout the year.  I&#039;ve worked with lawyers that do almost nothing as municipal attorneys and rake in tens of thousands of dollars for their firm.  I know many municipal auditors who spend only a portion of 4 or 5 days per year going over a township&#039;s books.  I know public relations firms that sign contracts with townships for $50,000 per year and their &quot;product&quot; is a 4-page, quarterly newsletter (shipping and printing costs paid by the town).  I put out a quarterly newsletter and it costs me about $1,200 to do it for the year!

It&#039;s a disgrace.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just because they are needed doesn&#8217;t mean that the tax payers should keep coughing up higher taxes to pay for them.</p>
<p>You should go back and re-read the last comment &#8211; the generalizations I make are about the industries where I know people and I said that I wouldn&#8217;t make an assumption about this guy because it would be improper.  <em>(Besides the fact that this is a personal blog and I&#8217;m allowed to make generalizations!  Not everything has to be the debate of the Century!  🙂  )</em></p>
<p>What I DO know is how LITTLE work many of these municipal contractors do throughout the year.  I&#8217;ve worked with lawyers that do almost nothing as municipal attorneys and rake in tens of thousands of dollars for their firm.  I know many municipal auditors who spend only a portion of 4 or 5 days per year going over a township&#8217;s books.  I know public relations firms that sign contracts with townships for $50,000 per year and their &#8220;product&#8221; is a 4-page, quarterly newsletter (shipping and printing costs paid by the town).  I put out a quarterly newsletter and it costs me about $1,200 to do it for the year!</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a disgrace.</p>
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		By: Metroplexual		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Metroplexual]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 11:27:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[You make many generalizations here.  Sure these guys usually have multiple municipal contracts, but remember these guys tend to be low bidders.  So I would saay that is the cost of doing business.

BTW, how do you know how much work he does?  I don&#039;t exactly see the point of your diatribe.  A town must have an Attorney to review its documents and must have a cfo.  This is exactly why consolidation is so vital.  Home rule is killing NJ taxpayers.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You make many generalizations here.  Sure these guys usually have multiple municipal contracts, but remember these guys tend to be low bidders.  So I would saay that is the cost of doing business.</p>
<p>BTW, how do you know how much work he does?  I don&#8217;t exactly see the point of your diatribe.  A town must have an Attorney to review its documents and must have a cfo.  This is exactly why consolidation is so vital.  Home rule is killing NJ taxpayers.</p>
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		By: Joe		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joe]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 03:10:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[First of all, if anyone really believes that this part-time guy spent about one day on Mount Arlington stuff per week, then I have a bridge to sell them.  I&#039;ve seen as many white-collar government contractors as you have, I&#039;m sure.  If he had 8 or 9 small municipalities, I wouldn&#039;t be surprised.  I won&#039;t make that accusation because it would be improper to, but I will say that it&#039;s not uncommon to run into an attorney (for example) who serves as the township attorney and thus has to be at council meetings once a month.  The contract?  In Monmouth County they can get as high as $45,000 for the year!

In my mind, it&#039;s all government waste.  But regardless, no one is going to complain, so who cares?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First of all, if anyone really believes that this part-time guy spent about one day on Mount Arlington stuff per week, then I have a bridge to sell them.  I&#8217;ve seen as many white-collar government contractors as you have, I&#8217;m sure.  If he had 8 or 9 small municipalities, I wouldn&#8217;t be surprised.  I won&#8217;t make that accusation because it would be improper to, but I will say that it&#8217;s not uncommon to run into an attorney (for example) who serves as the township attorney and thus has to be at council meetings once a month.  The contract?  In Monmouth County they can get as high as $45,000 for the year!</p>
<p>In my mind, it&#8217;s all government waste.  But regardless, no one is going to complain, so who cares?</p>
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		By: Metroplexual		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Metroplexual]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 20:35:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[5*$15K= $75K year.  Sounds about right for a masters degree and the years of experience.  Also he is not on the pension plan and probably does not get health care.  So if he does this for 4 other towns he is making a decent but not obscene income but he seems to be an independent contractor and I can vouch that the fringe rate for a government employee is currently between 35 and 50%.  So he could be more expensive if he wwere employed by the municipality instead of contracted.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>5*$15K= $75K year.  Sounds about right for a masters degree and the years of experience.  Also he is not on the pension plan and probably does not get health care.  So if he does this for 4 other towns he is making a decent but not obscene income but he seems to be an independent contractor and I can vouch that the fringe rate for a government employee is currently between 35 and 50%.  So he could be more expensive if he wwere employed by the municipality instead of contracted.</p>
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